1 00:00:37,700 --> 00:00:21,830 [Music] 2 00:00:44,330 --> 00:00:41,670 exploring the bazaars are your e-ticket 3 00:00:47,610 --> 00:00:44,340 ride into the world of the paranoid 4 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:47,620 strap yourself in as we traverse the 5 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:51,930 universe exploring the unexplained UFO s 6 00:00:57,420 --> 00:00:55,050 ghosts Lost Worlds 7 00:01:01,290 --> 00:00:57,430 cryptozoology waters as well as other 8 00:01:06,420 --> 00:01:01,300 dimensions it's time to take back the 9 00:01:09,510 --> 00:01:06,430 night now your electrifying hosts of 10 00:01:17,330 --> 00:01:09,520 exploring the bizarre Timothy Begley and 11 00:01:20,210 --> 00:01:17,340 Tim Schwartz we go to Rio Rio de Janeiro 12 00:01:24,570 --> 00:01:20,220 boy Tim you seem to be having a blast 13 00:01:27,870 --> 00:01:24,580 dressed up in your short shorts and tank 14 00:01:29,430 --> 00:01:27,880 tops and sipping on a piña colada under 15 00:01:32,030 --> 00:01:29,440 a beach umbrella 16 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:32,040 you must really like it here in Rio but 17 00:01:37,410 --> 00:01:34,090 don't you think we should do some 18 00:01:39,570 --> 00:01:37,420 serious UFO investigation you know that 19 00:01:43,830 --> 00:01:39,580 there are more sightings here than 20 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:43,840 anywhere else in the world yeah but look 21 00:01:48,930 --> 00:01:45,610 at all those sexy ladies and their 22 00:01:51,149 --> 00:01:48,940 thongs what a trip what a vacation how 23 00:01:55,410 --> 00:01:51,159 can you think about UFOs at a time like 24 00:01:57,660 --> 00:01:55,420 this Rio yeah but we have a show to do 25 00:02:00,510 --> 00:01:57,670 we have a guest on who wants to talk to 26 00:02:04,770 --> 00:02:00,520 us about all the sightings in this 27 00:02:07,230 --> 00:02:04,780 incredible land Hey 28 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:07,240 so that Kim Basinger walking by she 29 00:02:11,550 --> 00:02:09,850 still looks pretty hot if you ask me oh 30 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:11,560 look at all these gals all these 31 00:02:15,479 --> 00:02:13,090 celebrities Wow 32 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:15,489 yeah yeah yeah whatever you say but pay 33 00:02:21,060 --> 00:02:18,250 attention to those saucers in the sky or 34 00:02:23,699 --> 00:02:21,070 there come down and grab you and your 35 00:02:28,020 --> 00:02:23,709 drink remember what they did to Antoniou 36 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:28,030 Boas ah Tim you're a real killjoy but if 37 00:02:35,070 --> 00:02:31,330 you insist let's get back to the K cor 38 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:35,080 video studio then but let me finish my 39 00:02:50,300 --> 00:02:44,940 hmm all right here we are back in the 40 00:02:54,850 --> 00:02:50,310 cold dank Las Vegas studios 41 00:02:58,730 --> 00:02:54,860 well I'm in the colder New York City so 42 00:03:02,240 --> 00:02:58,740 and I know you're in Jasper Indiana but 43 00:03:05,750 --> 00:03:02,250 today we have a guest on who actually is 44 00:03:07,010 --> 00:03:05,760 in Brazil and we love Brazilian UFO 45 00:03:11,210 --> 00:03:07,020 sightings I mean there's got some 46 00:03:13,850 --> 00:03:11,220 classic cases down there you know we've 47 00:03:16,790 --> 00:03:13,860 done a couple of we're friends with AJ 48 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:16,800 who does the UFO magazine and done we've 49 00:03:22,460 --> 00:03:20,010 covered a lot of the the cases you know 50 00:03:24,640 --> 00:03:22,470 I used to exchange when there were 51 00:03:28,009 --> 00:03:24,650 printed magazines are used to exchange 52 00:03:30,890 --> 00:03:28,019 publications or little scenes with other 53 00:03:33,770 --> 00:03:30,900 UFO groups all over the world and there 54 00:03:37,940 --> 00:03:33,780 was the SB DV and I probably got the 55 00:03:40,309 --> 00:03:37,950 initials wrong but it was Walter Bueller 56 00:03:43,100 --> 00:03:40,319 who ran the group and he had some really 57 00:03:44,809 --> 00:03:43,110 incredible UFO incidents there's a lot 58 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:44,819 of Close Encounters and landings and 59 00:03:50,830 --> 00:03:47,850 things like that and we utilized a lot 60 00:03:53,479 --> 00:03:50,840 of his material so we feel very close to 61 00:03:57,740 --> 00:03:53,489 Brazil as far as the UFO sightings go 62 00:04:00,170 --> 00:03:57,750 but continue on and let me get out of my 63 00:04:02,210 --> 00:04:00,180 shorts here and get the my jeans on and 64 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:02,220 in the meantime you just tell everybody 65 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:03,810 who were going to be talking to tonight 66 00:04:09,190 --> 00:04:07,290 Rio yeah I'm gonna avert my eyes here 67 00:04:13,509 --> 00:04:09,200 well Tim I'm really happy because 68 00:04:14,690 --> 00:04:13,519 tonight we are talking to Thiago 69 00:04:17,990 --> 00:04:14,700 tea-caddy 70 00:04:21,140 --> 00:04:18,000 now Thiago has been researching the UFO 71 00:04:25,070 --> 00:04:21,150 phenomena for over 22 years he was born 72 00:04:27,469 --> 00:04:25,080 on February 5th 1975 in Santa Cruz 73 00:04:30,469 --> 00:04:27,479 Brazil and as the son of an aviation 74 00:04:32,690 --> 00:04:30,479 officer of the Brazilian Air Force he 75 00:04:34,909 --> 00:04:32,700 had the opportunity to live in a number 76 00:04:37,100 --> 00:04:34,919 of different cities throughout Brazil 77 00:04:40,700 --> 00:04:37,110 after the death of his parents he moved 78 00:04:43,190 --> 00:04:40,710 to Austin England where he stayed for 79 00:04:45,500 --> 00:04:43,200 six months now upon his return he moved 80 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:45,510 to Brasilia where he lives today 81 00:04:51,260 --> 00:04:48,330 Thiago is a co-author of UFO magazine 82 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:51,270 and is the president of the Brazilian 83 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:54,450 Commission of U of ologists as well as 84 00:05:00,770 --> 00:04:57,810 MUFON z-- assistant national director of 85 00:05:03,590 --> 00:05:00,780 Brazil now Tiago has written 10 books on 86 00:05:07,460 --> 00:05:03,600 the subject of UFOs his most recent 87 00:05:09,950 --> 00:05:07,470 his first English book is UFO contacts 88 00:05:12,770 --> 00:05:09,960 in Brazil published by our good friend 89 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:12,780 Philip model of flying discs pressed and 90 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:16,170 some of his popular articles are human 91 00:05:22,910 --> 00:05:18,930 and alien sexual experiences UFOs 92 00:05:25,910 --> 00:05:22,920 monitor our wars and the secrets of area 93 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:25,920 51 revealed so Thiago thank you very 94 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:27,330 much for being with us tonight on 95 00:05:39,050 --> 00:05:36,330 exploring the bizarre yeah you know I 96 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:39,060 was just going to say I see this is Tim 97 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:41,490 Beckley here i I see that we cover some 98 00:05:46,670 --> 00:05:43,730 of the same subjects in our 99 00:05:50,690 --> 00:05:46,680 investigations you have a book human and 100 00:05:52,610 --> 00:05:50,700 alien sex sexual experiences and we just 101 00:05:55,490 --> 00:05:52,620 did a book I guess about seven or eight 102 00:05:59,150 --> 00:05:55,500 months ago called screwed by the aliens 103 00:06:02,780 --> 00:05:59,160 aha and also too we we've covered that 104 00:06:04,820 --> 00:06:02,790 of course area 51 I guess you weren't 105 00:06:07,310 --> 00:06:04,830 out there to storm the gates but then 106 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:07,320 neither neither were i and neither was 107 00:06:11,710 --> 00:06:09,570 the two of us but tell us how did you 108 00:06:14,210 --> 00:06:11,720 get into this did you did you have a UFO 109 00:06:18,290 --> 00:06:14,220 sighting or is it something land in your 110 00:06:20,030 --> 00:06:18,300 backyard er what is a gentleman of 111 00:06:22,630 --> 00:06:20,040 leisure there in Brazil doing 112 00:06:27,380 --> 00:06:22,640 investigating some pretty incredible 113 00:06:31,090 --> 00:06:27,390 stories thank you - you might meet you 114 00:06:34,490 --> 00:06:31,100 to the show and the second of all the 115 00:06:35,300 --> 00:06:34,500 next week of Brazil is caipirinha is not 116 00:06:38,510 --> 00:06:35,310 pina colada 117 00:06:42,020 --> 00:06:38,520 Finnick rod is in Peru on Mexico we have 118 00:06:44,540 --> 00:06:42,030 you know in fact you're right because I 119 00:06:47,990 --> 00:06:44,550 just I just got here almost late I was 120 00:06:59,620 --> 00:06:48,000 having a pina colada in a Peruvian 121 00:07:03,860 --> 00:06:59,630 restaurant I I had my first and only 122 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:03,870 sighting in 82 when I was 8 years old I 123 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:06,450 was born in originario Santa Cruz is the 124 00:07:11,390 --> 00:07:08,970 name of the is the name of the city in 125 00:07:14,870 --> 00:07:11,400 Rio de Janeiro I was born in Rio de 126 00:07:16,510 --> 00:07:14,880 Janeiro and I was living there when I 127 00:07:20,260 --> 00:07:16,520 saw 128 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:20,270 red light came in coming descending from 129 00:07:27,510 --> 00:07:23,810 the sky and hovering a mountain we call 130 00:07:31,950 --> 00:07:27,520 pedal agafia and then this this light 131 00:07:35,710 --> 00:07:31,960 get bigger and reddish and brighter and 132 00:07:39,909 --> 00:07:35,720 make erratic movement and flow wave to 133 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:39,919 the space it was my first sighting and 134 00:07:46,689 --> 00:07:44,090 so far the only one but my dad as I said 135 00:07:48,879 --> 00:07:46,699 my dad was a retainer Air Force pilot 136 00:07:54,460 --> 00:07:48,889 and he loved it 137 00:07:58,689 --> 00:07:54,470 UFO phenomena so I start when I I start 138 00:08:00,580 --> 00:07:58,699 to read when I learned to read my my 139 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:00,590 preference was comic books like 140 00:08:09,330 --> 00:08:03,530 spider-man and there were four magazines 141 00:08:15,700 --> 00:08:09,340 so things a child that I I like UFOs 142 00:08:19,809 --> 00:08:15,710 now okay so but it's quite a I would say 143 00:08:22,870 --> 00:08:19,819 a hop skip and a jump from having a UFO 144 00:08:25,689 --> 00:08:22,880 sighting and ended up and end up writing 145 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:25,699 ten books on the on the other subject 146 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:28,570 how did you get involved as far as the 147 00:08:34,870 --> 00:08:31,370 organization's and all go I mean did you 148 00:08:40,510 --> 00:08:34,880 meet AJ or did you buy a copy of the UFO 149 00:08:43,899 --> 00:08:40,520 magazine on the newsstand well I read I 150 00:08:46,540 --> 00:08:43,909 read beautiful magazine from AJ things I 151 00:08:49,210 --> 00:08:46,550 was scared they were say UFO magazine 152 00:08:52,630 --> 00:08:49,220 has more than 30 years publication of 153 00:08:56,050 --> 00:08:52,640 Hunter years so see there was a boy I 154 00:08:57,760 --> 00:08:56,060 read it and I start when I moved to 155 00:09:00,579 --> 00:08:57,770 Brasilia in fact when I moved to 156 00:09:04,060 --> 00:09:00,589 Brasilia I became a UFO magazine 157 00:09:06,130 --> 00:09:04,070 translator I got some some articles from 158 00:09:09,250 --> 00:09:06,140 fellows from all of the world and then 159 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:09,260 translated to the magazine and I meet a 160 00:09:14,829 --> 00:09:12,770 GE and and then I became an 161 00:09:18,910 --> 00:09:14,839 international correspondent and then I 162 00:09:22,269 --> 00:09:18,920 become so far the co-editor of the four 163 00:09:26,140 --> 00:09:22,279 magazine Brazil and the MUFON I start 164 00:09:29,750 --> 00:09:26,150 being associated a member from before 165 00:09:35,269 --> 00:09:29,760 and I met Jan Jan 166 00:09:38,510 --> 00:09:35,279 and I made the course of the feud 167 00:09:41,750 --> 00:09:38,520 certification I done it and I was 168 00:09:46,130 --> 00:09:41,760 approving and I become assistant of AJ 169 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:46,140 in Brazil now what were the some of the 170 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:50,370 early cases that attracted your 171 00:09:55,930 --> 00:09:52,650 attention I mean we talked about the 172 00:09:59,540 --> 00:09:55,940 antonio a Boas case I guess everybody 173 00:10:02,660 --> 00:09:59,550 knows the story about him having an 174 00:10:06,460 --> 00:10:02,670 experience and going inside of a UFO and 175 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:06,470 having a sex with a supposed 176 00:10:11,450 --> 00:10:08,490 extraterrestrial lady 177 00:10:15,260 --> 00:10:11,460 are there other similar stories to that 178 00:10:18,860 --> 00:10:15,270 and in the Brazil yes yes we do have 179 00:10:22,250 --> 00:10:18,870 some cases we have two cases in Brazil 180 00:10:27,230 --> 00:10:22,260 that the witness claiming to have had 181 00:10:30,500 --> 00:10:27,240 sex with aliens just very similar to 182 00:10:35,090 --> 00:10:30,510 Antonio Villas Boas case the difference 183 00:10:36,980 --> 00:10:35,100 was they not got blood from down but 184 00:10:40,490 --> 00:10:36,990 they had sex aliens 185 00:10:43,100 --> 00:10:40,500 a female alien and they pointed to the 186 00:10:47,930 --> 00:10:43,110 best ballet ballet and said well 187 00:10:50,300 --> 00:10:47,940 probably going to have a hybrid kid you 188 00:10:56,510 --> 00:10:50,310 know that believes in storing some 189 00:11:00,170 --> 00:10:56,520 planet now do you find yourself that 190 00:11:02,990 --> 00:11:00,180 these stories are credible I mean do you 191 00:11:05,900 --> 00:11:03,000 give a a high degree of credibility to 192 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:05,910 them or are there other types of cases 193 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:10,530 that you are more involved in than you 194 00:11:15,770 --> 00:11:14,490 think you may be more real or because I 195 00:11:18,470 --> 00:11:15,780 know a lot of people think that these 196 00:11:22,100 --> 00:11:18,480 are you know some fantasy prone people 197 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:22,110 who are having these experiences and I 198 00:11:26,590 --> 00:11:23,970 do know that some of them have markings 199 00:11:29,300 --> 00:11:26,600 or scoops on their on their skin but 200 00:11:32,210 --> 00:11:29,310 it's a you know a long way from having a 201 00:11:33,949 --> 00:11:32,220 just a normal UFO encounter or having 202 00:11:36,949 --> 00:11:33,959 something land on the highway in front 203 00:11:40,100 --> 00:11:36,959 of you then having a sexual intercourse 204 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:40,110 with somebody from some other place or 205 00:11:47,390 --> 00:11:42,810 planet yeah 206 00:11:51,410 --> 00:11:47,400 to write this book took three four years 207 00:11:54,380 --> 00:11:51,420 studying several cases all the cases 208 00:11:58,190 --> 00:11:54,390 that in the book in the book are to make 209 00:12:00,290 --> 00:11:58,200 credible because I try to get 210 00:12:03,980 --> 00:12:00,300 information from other books from 211 00:12:07,579 --> 00:12:03,990 another apologists from the witnesses in 212 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:07,589 this particular cases of sexual sex with 213 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:12,890 aliens I got some information from the 214 00:12:18,260 --> 00:12:15,650 pathologists that research the case I 215 00:12:22,190 --> 00:12:18,270 didn't get in touch of the witnesses 216 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:22,200 because they are dead so far but I got 217 00:12:27,620 --> 00:12:24,210 information from the people who 218 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:27,630 researched the case and the report was 219 00:12:32,570 --> 00:12:31,170 very very credible very good oh they 220 00:12:38,060 --> 00:12:32,580 must be blind 221 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:38,070 okay then there is this possibility but 222 00:12:47,090 --> 00:12:41,850 in my opinion they person from an 223 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:47,100 extraordinary event that was not make it 224 00:12:54,410 --> 00:12:52,170 up they really really happen to them and 225 00:12:56,750 --> 00:12:54,420 did they have markings on their body I 226 00:12:59,120 --> 00:12:56,760 mean was there some physical evidence 227 00:13:02,720 --> 00:12:59,130 that their encounters really did take 228 00:13:05,690 --> 00:13:02,730 place whether or not not this does have 229 00:13:09,860 --> 00:13:05,700 in this particular case they just have 230 00:13:14,150 --> 00:13:09,870 had sexual intercourse that's all like a 231 00:13:17,420 --> 00:13:14,160 man and a woman like that they never 232 00:13:21,020 --> 00:13:17,430 they didn't show in any marks we have 233 00:13:24,910 --> 00:13:21,030 other cases that we had marks in it skin 234 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:24,920 but not related with sex of the aliens 235 00:13:35,110 --> 00:13:31,170 okay okay so how about as far as we know 236 00:13:37,460 --> 00:13:35,120 of course the the case that took place 237 00:13:39,740 --> 00:13:37,470 there on the on the beach and the 238 00:13:41,900 --> 00:13:39,750 Caloris many many years ago where 239 00:13:45,380 --> 00:13:41,910 people's bloods blood was actually being 240 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:45,390 sucked out of them apparently I had many 241 00:13:51,260 --> 00:13:48,770 witnesses to that in fact we've done the 242 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:51,270 quite a bit of investigation and 243 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:54,410 research utilizing some of AJ's material 244 00:13:58,670 --> 00:13:56,490 actually would 245 00:14:04,730 --> 00:13:58,680 you say that's one of the most prominent 246 00:14:06,680 --> 00:14:04,740 and verifiable episodes in UFO UFO 247 00:14:09,230 --> 00:14:06,690 history there in Brazil because of the 248 00:14:12,980 --> 00:14:09,240 number of witnesses not only in Brazil 249 00:14:16,190 --> 00:14:12,990 Tia in a world in a world we you you are 250 00:14:17,780 --> 00:14:16,200 talking about the plate operation there 251 00:14:21,010 --> 00:14:17,790 are some psst 252 00:14:24,769 --> 00:14:21,020 absolutely yeah it happened in seven in 253 00:14:29,630 --> 00:14:24,779 1977 in coladas and many of other cities 254 00:14:32,389 --> 00:14:29,640 in north of Brazil well hundreds of 255 00:14:35,690 --> 00:14:32,399 people are afraid because they have this 256 00:14:39,829 --> 00:14:35,700 attack it by light lights that should 257 00:14:43,250 --> 00:14:39,839 some beings of rays of light that hit 258 00:14:46,850 --> 00:14:43,260 them in arms or near the breasts in a 259 00:14:51,980 --> 00:14:46,860 woman and took the energy they said 260 00:14:56,090 --> 00:14:51,990 energy they got tired they got dizzy and 261 00:14:58,250 --> 00:14:56,100 when these people went to the doctor was 262 00:15:03,970 --> 00:14:58,260 discovered that they was suffering from 263 00:15:06,949 --> 00:15:03,980 anemia they they lost blood so this 264 00:15:10,900 --> 00:15:06,959 airship is aliens this I don't know what 265 00:15:14,389 --> 00:15:10,910 what was that was second blood and 266 00:15:18,319 --> 00:15:14,399 energy from the people from the series 267 00:15:21,860 --> 00:15:18,329 and this case was so so important in 268 00:15:24,350 --> 00:15:21,870 urgent that mayor's from some of the 269 00:15:27,319 --> 00:15:24,360 cities asked to the Brazilian Air Force 270 00:15:29,900 --> 00:15:27,329 to investigate it because people are 271 00:15:33,139 --> 00:15:29,910 afraid it and leaving the town they are 272 00:15:38,019 --> 00:15:33,149 moving the towns because of that and the 273 00:15:44,260 --> 00:15:38,029 Brazilian Air Force sent a crew it was a 274 00:15:48,290 --> 00:15:44,270 high height secret investigation they 275 00:15:51,230 --> 00:15:48,300 spent several months in coladas and 276 00:15:53,090 --> 00:15:51,240 other other cities in north of brazil 277 00:15:57,470 --> 00:15:53,100 they got pictures 278 00:15:59,630 --> 00:15:57,480 they got films and even we don't jacob 279 00:16:03,130 --> 00:15:59,640 town captain and we don't she is the 280 00:16:07,970 --> 00:16:03,140 leader of the the crew they got a 281 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:07,980 contact with contact with an alien five 282 00:16:13,670 --> 00:16:10,410 meters he stood five 283 00:16:18,710 --> 00:16:13,680 instance of an alien alien being like 284 00:16:23,710 --> 00:16:18,720 like a gray he was in 1977 the great was 285 00:16:28,660 --> 00:16:23,720 not so famous as they they are today so 286 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:28,670 this case had more than 24 hours of film 287 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:33,570 more than 500 photos and more than 200 288 00:16:38,590 --> 00:16:36,330 reports now how I've seen that we seen 289 00:16:42,530 --> 00:16:38,600 we've seen quite a few of the the stills 290 00:16:46,580 --> 00:16:42,540 have you seen any of the films that were 291 00:16:49,340 --> 00:16:46,590 taken yes I saw when when when the 292 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:49,350 Brazilian Commission of apologies what 293 00:16:56,510 --> 00:16:53,610 impact was invited by the Brazilian 294 00:17:03,350 --> 00:16:56,520 government and perceived in the air 295 00:17:08,360 --> 00:17:03,360 force to have a meeting in 2030 13 I'm 296 00:17:12,260 --> 00:17:08,370 sorry they show us a number of photos 297 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:12,270 and films and they promised it that 298 00:17:19,970 --> 00:17:14,850 gonna polish they're gonna uncover it 299 00:17:23,420 --> 00:17:19,980 and and we will be able to show the to 300 00:17:29,300 --> 00:17:23,430 everybody but this never happened this 301 00:17:31,310 --> 00:17:29,310 never happened they were you it were you 302 00:17:33,650 --> 00:17:31,320 in impressed by the the films now 303 00:17:35,870 --> 00:17:33,660 because the the photographs that are 304 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:35,880 published and well we did a book called 305 00:17:42,110 --> 00:17:38,970 alien bloodlust the photographs look 306 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:42,120 impressive but of course they're all you 307 00:17:46,220 --> 00:17:43,890 know lights at night the streaking 308 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:46,230 across the black background so one could 309 00:17:50,870 --> 00:17:48,210 say well there's a possibility that they 310 00:17:54,290 --> 00:17:50,880 they were done in the the darkroom or 311 00:17:59,350 --> 00:17:54,300 something were the were the films that 312 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:02,690 but these photos are of this show from 313 00:18:10,070 --> 00:18:05,970 Brazilian government they want bye-bye 314 00:18:13,010 --> 00:18:10,080 someone else was made by a photographer 315 00:18:15,410 --> 00:18:13,020 from Britain Air Force and the film but 316 00:18:17,900 --> 00:18:15,420 they feel most much much clearer much 317 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:17,910 much much clearer you can you can see 318 00:18:24,110 --> 00:18:20,250 the shape of the UFO you can see the 319 00:18:28,549 --> 00:18:24,120 lights around circling they do a so 320 00:18:31,460 --> 00:18:28,559 and they just show us around ten minutes 321 00:18:36,110 --> 00:18:31,470 of films and we know they have more than 322 00:18:39,830 --> 00:18:36,120 20 hours of films no one knows where the 323 00:18:44,210 --> 00:18:39,840 films are no one knows they destroy it 324 00:18:46,909 --> 00:18:44,220 or they miss it or they just kept it 325 00:18:48,980 --> 00:18:46,919 under under the sheet so we don't know 326 00:18:51,460 --> 00:18:48,990 don't know what what happened with the 327 00:18:55,430 --> 00:18:51,470 films but the films were very clear that 328 00:18:58,130 --> 00:18:55,440 what show what shows was not an airplane 329 00:19:01,240 --> 00:18:58,140 or a helicopter is something beyond this 330 00:19:02,419 --> 00:19:01,250 world now can you describe the the 331 00:19:04,580 --> 00:19:02,429 objects 332 00:19:07,130 --> 00:19:04,590 weren't they it shaped kind of like a I 333 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:07,140 think a a frigerator or something of 334 00:19:13,730 --> 00:19:11,010 flying sideways a lot of Sheamus I think 335 00:19:17,149 --> 00:19:13,740 the classic flying-saucer the classic 336 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:17,159 flying-saucer show the refrigerator to 337 00:19:26,210 --> 00:19:23,090 the poorest fears of balls rectangles 338 00:19:28,250 --> 00:19:26,220 amazing amazingly many many shapes of 339 00:19:32,289 --> 00:19:28,260 the earth earth from different colors 340 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:32,299 different shapes and different movements 341 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:36,330 now didn t the main investigator for the 342 00:19:43,789 --> 00:19:39,770 military didn't he later commit suicide 343 00:19:45,620 --> 00:19:43,799 no it's a fake news like he said today's 344 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:45,630 nothing fake Lucia 345 00:19:53,330 --> 00:19:50,010 yes my father-in-law was a British Air 346 00:19:56,990 --> 00:19:53,340 Force pilot and knew a wheel engine from 347 00:20:00,590 --> 00:19:57,000 their force and he told me he passed 348 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:00,600 away a year ago but my mind my father a 349 00:20:06,649 --> 00:20:03,690 father passed away a year ago but when I 350 00:20:10,659 --> 00:20:06,659 asked him asked him if he knew we don't 351 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:10,669 G he told me yes I I did I did but and 352 00:20:19,549 --> 00:20:14,090 what happened to him home well he always 353 00:20:23,180 --> 00:20:19,559 had some some kind of depression and had 354 00:20:26,149 --> 00:20:23,190 problems with his family so I'm not I 355 00:20:29,630 --> 00:20:26,159 not believe that he committed suicide oh 356 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:29,640 oh he was he he was he committed suicide 357 00:20:36,049 --> 00:20:32,850 I don't believe that was murdered yes oh 358 00:20:37,730 --> 00:20:36,059 yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah many 359 00:20:40,910 --> 00:20:37,740 people said it was 360 00:20:45,340 --> 00:20:40,920 see conspiracy theorists would say that 361 00:20:48,260 --> 00:20:45,350 he he was a murdered and okay now 362 00:20:50,630 --> 00:20:48,270 there's also another case I remember 363 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:50,640 reading about if it's the night of the 364 00:20:56,360 --> 00:20:53,730 the saucers where the the military 365 00:20:59,720 --> 00:20:56,370 actually chased these things for several 366 00:21:03,919 --> 00:20:59,730 hours yes it's amazing you do it's 367 00:21:06,430 --> 00:21:03,929 happening in 80 in 1986 we call the 368 00:21:10,130 --> 00:21:06,440 noise of the Zelda zoo fish 369 00:21:14,590 --> 00:21:10,140 official-official nights of UFOs where 370 00:21:18,830 --> 00:21:14,600 more than twenty two UFOs plotted in 371 00:21:23,919 --> 00:21:18,840 rudder screams in several states of 372 00:21:30,380 --> 00:21:23,929 Brazil and this they the viewer folks 373 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:30,390 were so by some of the palettes and from 374 00:21:36,590 --> 00:21:33,690 the land from the the person in the in 375 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:36,600 cultural tower in the land and people in 376 00:21:42,500 --> 00:21:40,530 an inner city they saw this UFOs when 377 00:21:46,370 --> 00:21:42,510 the first the first sighting occurred in 378 00:21:49,940 --> 00:21:46,380 over Campinas in san paulo and two of 379 00:21:53,299 --> 00:21:49,950 fight two fighters were scrambled to 380 00:21:57,890 --> 00:21:53,309 pursuit UFOs 381 00:22:02,060 --> 00:21:57,900 one of the palettes all saw the UFO and 382 00:22:06,530 --> 00:22:02,070 in one moment he had six UFOs in his 383 00:22:09,950 --> 00:22:06,540 left and five levels in his right and it 384 00:22:13,940 --> 00:22:09,960 was so fast so fast in we are talking 385 00:22:17,090 --> 00:22:13,950 about mirage fighters and the f5 386 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:17,100 fighters they can reach this bit of 387 00:22:24,620 --> 00:22:22,050 sound but the UFOs was so much so much 388 00:22:29,330 --> 00:22:24,630 faster than them they was impossible to 389 00:22:31,790 --> 00:22:29,340 pursuit yeah because I I know there's a 390 00:22:33,830 --> 00:22:31,800 I think there were some photographs too 391 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:33,840 right there were some the military took 392 00:22:39,620 --> 00:22:37,410 pictures of that event as well right 393 00:22:44,360 --> 00:22:39,630 no we don't we don't have official 394 00:22:48,470 --> 00:22:44,370 photos of the of this this event but we 395 00:22:51,360 --> 00:22:48,480 know that some of the fighters had 396 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:51,370 cameras cameras on it 397 00:22:56,610 --> 00:22:54,850 so we have films about the spittoon but 398 00:22:58,500 --> 00:22:56,620 we still were looking for as a 399 00:23:00,000 --> 00:22:58,510 commissioner forbidden apologies we're 400 00:23:02,700 --> 00:23:00,010 still looking for and pressing the 401 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:02,710 government to release these videos 402 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:05,410 because we know they that exist and the 403 00:23:11,130 --> 00:23:08,050 pilots involved in this pursuit in this 404 00:23:14,430 --> 00:23:11,140 case they told us that they had some 405 00:23:19,020 --> 00:23:14,440 photos and videos of it so now what is 406 00:23:22,050 --> 00:23:19,030 the official word from the Brazilian 407 00:23:24,870 --> 00:23:22,060 government or the military on UFOs I 408 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:24,880 mean do they take a particular stance on 409 00:23:31,530 --> 00:23:27,490 the subject is there a policy as far as 410 00:23:35,970 --> 00:23:31,540 UFOs go the only derelict policy that 411 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:35,980 the Brazilian government has is to make 412 00:23:44,700 --> 00:23:41,490 a report if you see something in unusual 413 00:23:48,390 --> 00:23:44,710 but the Brazilian didn't investigate it 414 00:23:51,420 --> 00:23:48,400 because we're passing through a very 415 00:23:55,620 --> 00:23:51,430 very a lot of problems economics 416 00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:55,630 political so I don't think and to go the 417 00:24:00,720 --> 00:23:57,850 government building government don't 418 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:00,730 don't want to spend time and and and it 419 00:24:07,650 --> 00:24:03,850 for sure to research results of 420 00:24:08,580 --> 00:24:07,660 fertility all right Tim and yeah 421 00:24:10,710 --> 00:24:08,590 although I'm gonna have to interrupt 422 00:24:12,330 --> 00:24:10,720 here because we are coming up to our 423 00:24:14,940 --> 00:24:12,340 bottom of the hour break when we come 424 00:24:25,660 --> 00:24:14,950 back we will continue our conversation 425 00:24:32,390 --> 00:24:29,810 now back to exploring the bazaar with 426 00:24:35,390 --> 00:24:32,400 two of the most electrifying researchers 427 00:24:40,610 --> 00:24:35,400 in the Paranoid your hosts Timothy 428 00:24:42,530 --> 00:24:40,620 Rebecca Lee Anton's lists welcome back 429 00:24:46,430 --> 00:24:42,540 to exploring the bazaar I'm Tim Schwartz 430 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:46,440 at night we are talking with Thiago T 431 00:24:59,750 --> 00:24:48,090 Kenny I say that right here I go to 432 00:25:05,480 --> 00:24:59,760 Kenny good old Midwest boy here so you 433 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:05,490 know I live in England they can't they 434 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:07,650 cannot say cicchetti so away I became 435 00:25:19,310 --> 00:25:15,210 Jack oh alright well and you are the 436 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:19,320 author of the new book UFO contacts in 437 00:25:27,260 --> 00:25:22,530 Brazil published by flying discs press 438 00:25:31,310 --> 00:25:27,270 and where can where can people find that 439 00:25:37,360 --> 00:25:31,320 here in the United States the book can 440 00:25:40,790 --> 00:25:37,370 be by amazon.com ok you can have it by 441 00:25:43,430 --> 00:25:40,800 hardcover or Kindle 442 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:43,440 all right great now I wanted to ask you 443 00:25:48,050 --> 00:25:46,530 you you know you you approach this 444 00:25:50,120 --> 00:25:48,060 subject a little bit just before we had 445 00:25:53,090 --> 00:25:50,130 to go to our break you know it's here in 446 00:25:55,610 --> 00:25:53,100 the United States a lot of UFO 447 00:25:57,230 --> 00:25:55,620 investigators think that you know the 448 00:26:01,100 --> 00:25:57,240 United States government the military 449 00:26:04,340 --> 00:26:01,110 know everything that there is about UFOs 450 00:26:05,870 --> 00:26:04,350 their origin what they are things like 451 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:05,880 that they're just keeping it secret from 452 00:26:12,590 --> 00:26:10,170 the rest of us poor slobs however there 453 00:26:15,020 --> 00:26:12,600 are others myself included that that 454 00:26:17,180 --> 00:26:15,030 think that the the government in the 455 00:26:18,860 --> 00:26:17,190 military no absolutely nothing but 456 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:18,870 they're just not going to admit it 457 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:22,050 because they know that you know that 458 00:26:26,810 --> 00:26:24,570 would create you know panic or bad 459 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:26,820 feelings from the public thinking that 460 00:26:32,210 --> 00:26:29,010 we've got strange things flying around 461 00:26:33,310 --> 00:26:32,220 in our skies that you know they can't do 462 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:33,320 anything about 463 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:36,170 what about what about in Brazil what do 464 00:26:42,910 --> 00:26:39,050 you think the the impression there is 465 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:42,920 when it comes to the military and the 466 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:45,530 government do you think that they have 467 00:26:50,530 --> 00:26:48,410 more information than they're letting on 468 00:26:53,740 --> 00:26:50,540 or do you think they're pretty much in 469 00:26:56,650 --> 00:26:53,750 the dark like the rest of us I'm sure 470 00:26:59,350 --> 00:26:56,660 they're dating dark and I know that 471 00:27:05,020 --> 00:26:59,360 birthdays in government research you 472 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:05,030 have those cases some of them but I they 473 00:27:11,470 --> 00:27:08,210 stopped to do it in the beginning of the 474 00:27:14,770 --> 00:27:11,480 eighties they stop it they just change 475 00:27:17,650 --> 00:27:14,780 his efforts to another areas of the 476 00:27:20,110 --> 00:27:17,660 brazilian development like education and 477 00:27:23,230 --> 00:27:20,120 latex and stuff like that 478 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:23,240 we had the virginia incident version a 479 00:27:31,980 --> 00:27:26,810 crash here in brazil in 1996 mm-hmm 480 00:27:43,750 --> 00:27:39,000 brazilian made a great effort to cover 481 00:27:48,130 --> 00:27:43,760 all the all the case and United States 482 00:27:51,580 --> 00:27:48,140 helped with Brazil to do it because we 483 00:27:54,220 --> 00:27:51,590 have informations that did not send 484 00:27:58,120 --> 00:27:54,230 information to the Brazilian Air Force 485 00:28:00,940 --> 00:27:58,130 that the UFO had just entered atmosphere 486 00:28:03,070 --> 00:28:00,950 and crash in city of Beijing in Brazil 487 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:03,080 they didn't already already know knew 488 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:07,490 that the same the same second day UFO 489 00:28:16,570 --> 00:28:12,050 crashes the NORAD knew that and the 490 00:28:19,180 --> 00:28:16,580 Brazilian start to create a great cover 491 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:19,190 like a Rolesville but just like a 492 00:28:25,810 --> 00:28:22,970 Roseville we had witnesses military 493 00:28:32,490 --> 00:28:25,820 witnesses civilian witnesses and they 494 00:28:36,430 --> 00:28:32,500 could not shut them out so the president 495 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:36,440 from 96 they stopped to research it we 496 00:28:44,020 --> 00:28:39,890 know that all the UFO wreckage from 497 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:44,030 Virginia and the alien beings that we 498 00:28:51,549 --> 00:28:48,010 took with recover we've covered 499 00:28:54,370 --> 00:28:51,559 for aliens from the UFO crash in 500 00:28:57,610 --> 00:28:54,380 Virginia mm-hmm and they were full and 501 00:29:00,549 --> 00:28:57,620 the alien beings was sent to United 502 00:29:03,490 --> 00:29:00,559 States we know that and it's not 503 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:03,500 christened some years later we send our 504 00:29:09,370 --> 00:29:07,130 first astronauts to the space Deborah's 505 00:29:14,070 --> 00:29:09,380 in the first and the only one astronaut 506 00:29:20,830 --> 00:29:14,080 was sent to space in you know co-working 507 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:20,840 with US government so we gave you a UFO 508 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:23,210 and alien beings and you gave us our 509 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:26,410 right a chicken to ride to this space 510 00:29:32,500 --> 00:29:28,850 you know that's that's a very 511 00:29:35,500 --> 00:29:32,510 interesting case and I don't think that 512 00:29:38,710 --> 00:29:35,510 a lot of people realize and and correct 513 00:29:41,230 --> 00:29:38,720 me if I'm wrong on this but I guess a 514 00:29:45,460 --> 00:29:41,240 number of the people I'm thinking 515 00:29:48,460 --> 00:29:45,470 especially the doctors who had contact 516 00:29:52,570 --> 00:29:48,470 with that that creature that was the 517 00:29:56,110 --> 00:29:52,580 first one that was found ended up dying 518 00:29:58,710 --> 00:29:56,120 mysteriously am I right on that it was 519 00:30:02,049 --> 00:29:58,720 not that doctor was when a soldier as 520 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:02,059 yeah one of the soldiers that touch the 521 00:30:07,090 --> 00:30:04,850 dead creature the alien they touch 522 00:30:10,810 --> 00:30:07,100 without gloves or some kind of 523 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:10,820 protection I touched the aliens that 524 00:30:23,799 --> 00:30:15,050 David was like a brown and and smother 525 00:30:27,730 --> 00:30:23,809 smug skin he and he touch it and week 526 00:30:30,580 --> 00:30:27,740 later I went to the hospital with a 527 00:30:35,890 --> 00:30:30,590 disease that no one knows what was that 528 00:30:40,870 --> 00:30:35,900 and the family was very concerned about 529 00:30:41,830 --> 00:30:40,880 his health but he he died two weeks 530 00:30:45,190 --> 00:30:41,840 later 531 00:30:49,390 --> 00:30:45,200 after heated to the the the creator and 532 00:30:50,950 --> 00:30:49,400 the doctor said those like some kind of 533 00:30:55,510 --> 00:30:50,960 viral something like that nothing 534 00:31:01,500 --> 00:30:55,520 important but he was burning in the 535 00:31:10,630 --> 00:31:06,940 I'll same English Ubu lead it was buried 536 00:31:13,690 --> 00:31:10,640 in the in the cuff of lead and I and 537 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:13,700 when we do it is not to contaminate the 538 00:31:23,710 --> 00:31:18,410 area mmm he just had a virus why to be 539 00:31:28,990 --> 00:31:23,720 buried in in a in a lead of a cough of 540 00:31:32,380 --> 00:31:29,000 lead right right normal well there's 541 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:32,390 there's been other cases similar to that 542 00:31:39,870 --> 00:31:37,130 where UFOs and and you know the things 543 00:31:42,730 --> 00:31:39,880 seen coming out of them have not been 544 00:31:47,350 --> 00:31:42,740 especially friendly if not downright 545 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:47,360 deadly to the human witnesses yes we 546 00:31:58,110 --> 00:31:52,210 have a very important case call it 547 00:32:01,120 --> 00:31:58,120 casual precious figure that in 1948 548 00:32:04,350 --> 00:32:01,130 living in a small town in some parallel 549 00:32:07,030 --> 00:32:04,360 state and he was walking in a 550 00:32:09,970 --> 00:32:07,040 Illustrated that mark that back that 551 00:32:13,590 --> 00:32:09,980 time this it was there's no electricity 552 00:32:20,910 --> 00:32:13,600 all of the city so very dark and he saw 553 00:32:25,030 --> 00:32:20,920 a light in the sky and for some reason 554 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:25,040 that we still don't know they were for 555 00:32:34,180 --> 00:32:28,570 just shot him in the arm a beam of light 556 00:32:42,060 --> 00:32:34,190 and he started to get dizzy and got 557 00:32:46,210 --> 00:32:42,070 fever and he's flush he start to melt 558 00:32:49,090 --> 00:32:46,220 literally melt it's like it if he had 559 00:32:50,830 --> 00:32:49,100 some kind of a radiation context of 560 00:32:55,540 --> 00:32:50,840 stuff in the radiation that the 561 00:32:59,380 --> 00:32:55,550 radioactivity and his flashes start to 562 00:33:02,950 --> 00:32:59,390 melt from his bones and he died few days 563 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:02,960 later and this one of her became the dog 564 00:33:13,750 --> 00:33:07,970 happened here in Brazil now considering 565 00:33:19,060 --> 00:33:13,760 the size of the country of Brazil 566 00:33:21,850 --> 00:33:19,070 how difficult is it to to to get reports 567 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:21,860 to a more centralized location you know 568 00:33:28,570 --> 00:33:25,490 like to yourself or other researchers I 569 00:33:30,910 --> 00:33:28,580 mean are you constantly right running 570 00:33:33,010 --> 00:33:30,920 into reports that you know happen to say 571 00:33:35,260 --> 00:33:33,020 like a couple of years ago that you're 572 00:33:38,410 --> 00:33:35,270 just now finding out about it because it 573 00:33:43,420 --> 00:33:38,420 happened in you know some far-off corner 574 00:33:46,300 --> 00:33:43,430 of the country well nice it's beard in 575 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:46,310 Brazil but Raziel is like a continent as 576 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:50,170 well just Brazil's like a continent and 577 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:54,410 it's very very very difficult to us to 578 00:34:01,660 --> 00:33:57,410 know or get know all the cases that 579 00:34:06,430 --> 00:34:01,670 happen here in our country and we have a 580 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:06,440 lot of cases mainly in in inside counter 581 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:09,770 zone in the north of Brazil that people 582 00:34:17,649 --> 00:34:14,090 are so used to see UFOs alien beings 583 00:34:19,930 --> 00:34:17,659 that become a routine to them know what 584 00:34:22,210 --> 00:34:19,940 yes they don't want you to report it 585 00:34:25,720 --> 00:34:22,220 because they see it every day and every 586 00:34:28,450 --> 00:34:25,730 day they saw they see a strange lights 587 00:34:32,730 --> 00:34:28,460 in the sky they see some some being in 588 00:34:37,230 --> 00:34:32,740 the woods some been in the street and 589 00:34:40,240 --> 00:34:37,240 the Brasilia is not so development 590 00:34:42,700 --> 00:34:40,250 internet talking about Internet the 591 00:34:44,620 --> 00:34:42,710 originals not so development like the 592 00:34:48,610 --> 00:34:44,630 United States that everybody has access 593 00:34:51,399 --> 00:34:48,620 to Internet anything outside of Brazil 594 00:34:52,990 --> 00:34:51,409 inside country of Brazil many people 595 00:34:57,550 --> 00:34:53,000 don't have cell phones don't have 596 00:35:00,490 --> 00:34:57,560 internet so they don't report they say 597 00:35:02,500 --> 00:35:00,500 it they deceive UFOs in the sky often 598 00:35:07,030 --> 00:35:02,510 they see aliens being they have a lot of 599 00:35:09,970 --> 00:35:07,040 cases and sometimes we we know this case 600 00:35:12,790 --> 00:35:09,980 is three years four years five years 601 00:35:16,570 --> 00:35:12,800 later when the event happening so it's 602 00:35:22,450 --> 00:35:16,580 very difficult to research sure oh why 603 00:35:25,030 --> 00:35:22,460 do you think that Brazil is such a hot 604 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:25,040 spot for UFO and and and other unusual 605 00:35:30,190 --> 00:35:26,570 activity I mean it's 606 00:35:34,750 --> 00:35:30,200 in this way for four decades and it 607 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:34,760 doesn't seem to to be slowing down any I 608 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:36,410 mean is there do you think there's 609 00:35:43,660 --> 00:35:40,610 something special about Brazil that like 610 00:35:45,850 --> 00:35:43,670 a magnet that that's attracting these 611 00:35:48,190 --> 00:35:45,860 things or I mean I know it's it would 612 00:35:51,610 --> 00:35:48,200 just be speculation on your part but hey 613 00:35:59,440 --> 00:35:51,620 you know any theories well maybe they 614 00:36:05,740 --> 00:35:59,450 like our caipirinha I don't know we have 615 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:05,750 a love award drink water here in Brazil 616 00:36:12,910 --> 00:36:09,170 would have minerals all of the country 617 00:36:16,870 --> 00:36:12,920 we have a forest the rain for the bigger 618 00:36:20,830 --> 00:36:16,880 rain forces here in Brazil and some 619 00:36:23,170 --> 00:36:20,840 people says that it's because the 620 00:36:28,540 --> 00:36:23,180 minerals that we haven't in in our you 621 00:36:31,630 --> 00:36:28,550 know in our land I I think that this 622 00:36:36,700 --> 00:36:31,640 could be the true but I think it's most 623 00:36:39,730 --> 00:36:36,710 because its side of Brazil we and it's 624 00:36:42,820 --> 00:36:39,740 natural research research of Brazil I 625 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:42,830 think it's because of that and because 626 00:36:48,820 --> 00:36:46,490 the size of Brazil we are so buried we 627 00:36:53,710 --> 00:36:48,830 have a hot spot we are hot spot and have 628 00:36:58,860 --> 00:36:53,720 sightings every day that we can have now 629 00:37:02,170 --> 00:36:58,870 in your book a UFO contacts in in Brazil 630 00:37:06,250 --> 00:37:02,180 are there any of the any stories in 631 00:37:09,190 --> 00:37:06,260 there that are your absolute favorite so 632 00:37:12,010 --> 00:37:09,200 I mean you know the one that you if 633 00:37:14,290 --> 00:37:12,020 anybody asks you about the subject you 634 00:37:15,930 --> 00:37:14,300 know this is the story that that you're 635 00:37:19,900 --> 00:37:15,940 got to tell them because you love it 636 00:37:32,020 --> 00:37:19,910 well is it very hard 637 00:37:33,970 --> 00:37:32,030 father choose one of the well played 638 00:37:36,430 --> 00:37:33,980 operations one of them the night of the 639 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:36,440 UFOs another varnishing is another one 640 00:37:43,180 --> 00:37:39,930 but one is particularly happening 641 00:37:52,370 --> 00:37:43,190 Brazil in Brasilia where I live in 98 642 00:37:58,240 --> 00:37:52,380 1996 when a UFO was saw by four military 643 00:38:03,200 --> 00:37:58,250 police like policemen in Brazil medicals 644 00:38:04,940 --> 00:38:03,210 civilians and one of own of one of the 645 00:38:09,740 --> 00:38:04,950 civilians was a professional 646 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:09,750 photographer and he took more than 36 647 00:38:16,700 --> 00:38:13,050 photos of the UFOs that this photos is 648 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:16,710 in my book but the most important one of 649 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:20,610 the the policemen had the camera 96 is 650 00:38:25,130 --> 00:38:22,770 not usual to have cameras in it in 651 00:38:27,290 --> 00:38:25,140 Brazil we don't have hand cameras all of 652 00:38:29,660 --> 00:38:27,300 the place today we have a cell phone 653 00:38:33,410 --> 00:38:29,670 that also world has camera and you can 654 00:38:36,970 --> 00:38:33,420 shoot photos and make films but he had 655 00:38:41,300 --> 00:38:36,980 cameras because to film his approach his 656 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:41,310 investigations so he has one of camera 657 00:38:48,590 --> 00:38:44,610 in his in his car and he film it 658 00:38:53,450 --> 00:38:48,600 the UFO it's amazing it's amazing the 659 00:38:59,330 --> 00:38:53,460 the the UFOs like a slinger or some safe 660 00:39:04,940 --> 00:38:59,340 it's like a cross and some say that's 661 00:39:08,210 --> 00:39:04,950 like a hot talk but if in a film in July 662 00:39:11,510 --> 00:39:08,220 did this sky was so clear so clear 663 00:39:14,390 --> 00:39:11,520 there's no there's nothing this guy 664 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:14,400 there's no cloud in the sky the sky was 665 00:39:22,550 --> 00:39:18,290 so blue and the UFO was so brilliant a 666 00:39:25,670 --> 00:39:22,560 white brilliant that wasn't possible to 667 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:25,680 be an airplane and this sergeant he was 668 00:39:32,540 --> 00:39:28,490 a Corp it's not sergeant he was a Corp 669 00:39:35,710 --> 00:39:32,550 his name was go Gina he made four he 670 00:39:40,670 --> 00:39:35,720 made more than four minutes of the UFOs 671 00:39:43,970 --> 00:39:40,680 open this Rafael and then he shows for 672 00:39:47,150 --> 00:39:43,980 everybody included his headquarters he 673 00:39:48,950 --> 00:39:47,160 went to the police department and show 674 00:39:51,730 --> 00:39:48,960 to everybody and they asked us to 675 00:39:53,650 --> 00:39:51,740 investigated and we did and we 676 00:39:54,940 --> 00:39:53,660 discovered that was not 677 00:39:57,849 --> 00:39:54,950 playing and there was not on a 678 00:40:01,599 --> 00:39:57,859 helicopter and the sir in this photo in 679 00:40:03,990 --> 00:40:01,609 the film was so amazing that we're not 680 00:40:07,839 --> 00:40:04,000 saying that it was a Exeter s role 681 00:40:12,599 --> 00:40:07,849 'button was not man-made right makes a 682 00:40:15,099 --> 00:40:12,609 great case well now speaking of 683 00:40:18,490 --> 00:40:15,109 extraterrestrial you know here the in 684 00:40:20,319 --> 00:40:18,500 the United States as you well know there 685 00:40:23,140 --> 00:40:20,329 there's still a lot of people who think 686 00:40:26,710 --> 00:40:23,150 that UFOs represent I mean strictly nuts 687 00:40:29,170 --> 00:40:26,720 and bolts a spacecraft with you know 688 00:40:33,490 --> 00:40:29,180 scientist or whatever visiting us from 689 00:40:35,980 --> 00:40:33,500 from other planets while you know others 690 00:40:40,329 --> 00:40:35,990 and you know Tim Beckley myself included 691 00:40:42,250 --> 00:40:40,339 think that while maybe you know a small 692 00:40:45,609 --> 00:40:42,260 percentage of this you know could be 693 00:40:48,609 --> 00:40:45,619 true that there may be other factors 694 00:40:52,559 --> 00:40:48,619 going on here I mean you know maybe more 695 00:41:00,160 --> 00:40:52,569 esoteric or or paranormal type of 696 00:41:04,089 --> 00:41:00,170 phenomena going on is what about it what 697 00:41:06,069 --> 00:41:04,099 about in Brazil I mean is do we see the 698 00:41:08,170 --> 00:41:06,079 same same thing the same kind of a 699 00:41:12,549 --> 00:41:08,180 opinions of speculation going on down 700 00:41:18,970 --> 00:41:12,559 there concerning the phenomena yes I 701 00:41:22,690 --> 00:41:18,980 think this thought is is world him 702 00:41:25,769 --> 00:41:22,700 Brazil have well I I believe I I know 703 00:41:29,410 --> 00:41:25,779 there's a lot of theories about about it 704 00:41:32,829 --> 00:41:29,420 but I still believe that many of the 705 00:41:40,210 --> 00:41:32,839 cases are being from another planet or 706 00:41:42,910 --> 00:41:40,220 another dimension in my opinion they 707 00:41:46,900 --> 00:41:42,920 don't want to get in touch with us right 708 00:41:51,309 --> 00:41:46,910 the one because if they do they had 709 00:41:55,269 --> 00:41:51,319 already got it I think they just came to 710 00:42:00,089 --> 00:41:55,279 our town to our planet to investigate to 711 00:42:12,980 --> 00:42:00,099 see how we are how we are 712 00:42:20,610 --> 00:42:17,540 but it's very very interested because 713 00:42:23,850 --> 00:42:20,620 Frank's I saw something I saw like 714 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:23,860 something like this years ago that your 715 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:25,930 human beings 716 00:42:33,660 --> 00:42:31,450 in a future will be a sexual thing they 717 00:42:38,060 --> 00:42:33,670 don't they don't have any they will not 718 00:42:40,710 --> 00:42:38,070 have sex anymore like kind of a 719 00:42:45,450 --> 00:42:40,720 development of the main kind we're gonna 720 00:42:47,610 --> 00:42:45,460 be a sexual so maybe the day all right 721 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:47,620 there and they have to make sex first 722 00:42:55,110 --> 00:42:50,770 you to perpetuate to keep their demented 723 00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:55,120 kind so in Brazil yes we believe they 724 00:43:01,760 --> 00:42:57,850 save just a small percent of the 725 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:01,770 societies we can say that it's 726 00:43:12,630 --> 00:43:10,070 what about UFO magazine you're the 727 00:43:15,810 --> 00:43:12,640 co-editor of this magazine I mean here 728 00:43:19,740 --> 00:43:15,820 in the United States right Tim there's 729 00:43:22,170 --> 00:43:19,750 there's no longer any UFO magazines 730 00:43:24,950 --> 00:43:22,180 being published well we don't we don't 731 00:43:28,170 --> 00:43:24,960 even know if there is a there is no 732 00:43:30,260 --> 00:43:28,180 english-speaking magazine being printed 733 00:43:33,510 --> 00:43:30,270 anywhere that we know of in the world 734 00:43:36,090 --> 00:43:33,520 unless you include the 14 times there 735 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:36,100 are of course magazines that are 736 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:39,490 available online but the printed 737 00:43:44,970 --> 00:43:41,850 magazines they're all out of business 738 00:43:48,980 --> 00:43:44,980 it's a sad thing I mean I was a course 739 00:43:52,140 --> 00:43:48,990 editor of UFO universe for 11 years and 740 00:43:54,060 --> 00:43:52,150 put out the world's only flying saucer 741 00:43:58,770 --> 00:43:54,070 newspaper back in the 80s that was the 742 00:44:03,510 --> 00:43:58,780 UFO review and it's sad to see that all 743 00:44:07,110 --> 00:44:03,520 these publications have folded with the 744 00:44:10,860 --> 00:44:07,120 advent of course the Internet technology 745 00:44:13,250 --> 00:44:10,870 the last one to go was the magazine 746 00:44:17,610 --> 00:44:13,260 published in Australia called the 747 00:44:20,490 --> 00:44:17,620 ufologists what about the UFO magazine 748 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:20,500 in Brazil I mean how how was it doing 749 00:44:26,220 --> 00:44:22,570 do you still have a pretty good 750 00:44:28,260 --> 00:44:26,230 readership yeah yeah well there were 751 00:44:33,620 --> 00:44:28,270 four magazine in Brazil have been 752 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:33,630 published in a row for 30 years Wow 753 00:44:41,430 --> 00:44:38,410 so if the the longest published magazine 754 00:44:44,430 --> 00:44:41,440 in the world still publishing we had 755 00:44:46,980 --> 00:44:44,440 some me years ago the viewer view of UFO 756 00:44:49,770 --> 00:44:46,990 metrics from Philip mantou now we have 757 00:44:52,500 --> 00:44:49,780 some several things like electronic 758 00:45:00,150 --> 00:44:52,510 magazine like before if you have a trip 759 00:45:02,730 --> 00:45:00,160 by Tim and Tim and but here Brazil they 760 00:45:03,570 --> 00:45:02,740 were for magazine we have a lot of 761 00:45:06,599 --> 00:45:03,580 arrears 762 00:45:10,140 --> 00:45:06,609 you still have a lot of widows we sell 763 00:45:13,980 --> 00:45:10,150 around six seven thousand copies every 764 00:45:17,099 --> 00:45:13,990 month of UFO magazine we try to bring 765 00:45:22,099 --> 00:45:17,109 the apology to do to all the society we 766 00:45:25,980 --> 00:45:22,109 have a great fight in him to internet 767 00:45:29,339 --> 00:45:25,990 about the worth of magazine but it's 768 00:45:33,510 --> 00:45:29,349 very hard because no one's paid 769 00:45:37,410 --> 00:45:33,520 publishing publicity in a magazine that 770 00:45:40,710 --> 00:45:37,420 deals with without the very heart do you 771 00:45:44,060 --> 00:45:40,720 do it sometimes have to put money from 772 00:45:49,380 --> 00:45:44,070 our pocket to publish it to make 773 00:45:52,770 --> 00:45:49,390 Congress to go to the Congress to speak 774 00:45:57,570 --> 00:45:52,780 someplace in Brazil we have to to to 775 00:46:01,700 --> 00:45:57,580 spend all our money to it so apology is 776 00:46:04,380 --> 00:46:01,710 not it's not a easy way I don't believe 777 00:46:05,910 --> 00:46:04,390 my my leave and don't my live in front 778 00:46:07,109 --> 00:46:05,920 of all they're not for just like a 779 00:46:12,359 --> 00:46:07,119 professional because it's not 780 00:46:18,540 --> 00:46:12,369 professional here in Brazil but AJ 781 00:46:21,300 --> 00:46:18,550 leaves because the UFO magazine in 782 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:21,310 Brazil so in Brazil is very hard they're 783 00:46:24,570 --> 00:46:23,050 hard to keep doing my sweet we are doing 784 00:46:28,500 --> 00:46:24,580 a great job I think we're doing great 785 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:28,510 job well it always has been one of the 786 00:46:33,690 --> 00:46:31,690 best step magazines when we get a 787 00:46:34,370 --> 00:46:33,700 translation of some of the material on 788 00:46:39,770 --> 00:46:34,380 the 789 00:46:42,770 --> 00:46:39,780 had some migrated UFO cases and some 790 00:46:44,150 --> 00:46:42,780 fairly decent UFO publications like I 791 00:46:46,670 --> 00:46:44,160 mentioned earlier 792 00:46:51,350 --> 00:46:46,680 Walter Bueller will put out a magazine 793 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:51,360 both in Portuguese and in English and 794 00:46:55,550 --> 00:46:54,090 shared it courses in those days there 795 00:46:57,500 --> 00:46:55,560 were about a hundred and twenty five 796 00:46:59,810 --> 00:46:57,510 hundred and fifty magazines all over the 797 00:47:01,510 --> 00:46:59,820 world that we exchanged with some of 798 00:47:04,900 --> 00:47:01,520 them in English of course and some in 799 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:04,910 languages nobody that we knew of could 800 00:47:11,180 --> 00:47:06,930 understand you know I mean just about 801 00:47:13,930 --> 00:47:11,190 everybody had a UFO magazine and I think 802 00:47:16,370 --> 00:47:13,940 maybe France still has a professional 803 00:47:20,900 --> 00:47:16,380 publication I picked the copy up while I 804 00:47:23,720 --> 00:47:20,910 was in Quebec and that's about it really 805 00:47:25,310 --> 00:47:23,730 as far as the printed ones go the rest 806 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:25,320 of them are now online and of course 807 00:47:29,330 --> 00:47:27,450 there plenty of them there's a UFO 808 00:47:30,860 --> 00:47:29,340 magazine in India and just about any 809 00:47:34,910 --> 00:47:30,870 country that you can think of you can go 810 00:47:38,330 --> 00:47:34,920 online and find out what's going on yeah 811 00:47:41,810 --> 00:47:38,340 that's that's why the main reason that I 812 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:41,820 wrote this book because I have more I 813 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:44,850 have more than six hundred books of UFOs 814 00:47:54,140 --> 00:47:52,290 oh yeah and I honestly I never I didn't 815 00:47:55,550 --> 00:47:54,150 read all of them but I have it in 816 00:47:58,730 --> 00:47:55,560 Portuguese in English and Spanish 817 00:48:03,830 --> 00:47:58,740 someone in French I don't speak in 818 00:48:06,380 --> 00:48:03,840 French but but I I miss it that the 819 00:48:08,290 --> 00:48:06,390 Brazilian cases had to be shown to the 820 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:08,300 world we just have the biller 821 00:48:17,240 --> 00:48:14,130 publication in back in the 50s and you 822 00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:17,250 know just that classical case you know 823 00:48:22,550 --> 00:48:19,050 you should you must know what happened 824 00:48:24,260 --> 00:48:22,560 now that's why I wrote a book all right 825 00:48:27,260 --> 00:48:24,270 well we're gonna have to wrap it up here 826 00:48:29,720 --> 00:48:27,270 Tiago so your book is UFO contacts in 827 00:48:33,620 --> 00:48:29,730 Brazil published by flying discs press 828 00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:33,630 and Tim the great show tonight and thank 829 00:48:39,890 --> 00:48:35,490 you all for being with us tonight 830 00:48:43,550 --> 00:48:39,900 I go to Rio Rio Rio teach the drink 831 00:48:47,650 --> 00:48:43,560 watch drink what yeah happiness a lot 832 00:48:58,850 --> 00:48:55,070 my gift bar button barbecue a real one 833 00:49:03,520 --> 00:48:58,860 absolutely thank you very much 834 00:49:09,010 --> 00:49:05,860 you've been listening to exploring the 835 00:49:12,490 --> 00:49:09,020 bazaar with hosts Timothy Beckley 836 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:12,500 panting Swartz they're taking back the 837 00:49:17,350 --> 00:49:14,810 night by jetting non-stop across the 838 00:49:20,650 --> 00:49:17,360 cosmos in search of the truly bizarre 839 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:20,660 and totally unexplained with you as 840 00:49:24,790 --> 00:49:22,290 their code 841 00:49:29,270 --> 00:49:24,800 Thursday nights at 7:00 p.m. Pacific 842 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